Thursday, March 19, 2009

I BET THEIR COPY EDITORS DIED ON OCEANIC 815 for March 19, 2008

I BET THEIR COPY EDITORS DIED ON OCEANIC 815 is the newest weekly feature on Red Pen, Inc. It's a combination of recapping last night's episode of Lost and mocking some Lost-related bad writing. We can only assume that the publications whose writing is featured here must have had copy editors aboard Oceanic 815, and once the plane crashed and the copy editors died, the cheap-ass publications didn't hire anyone else to replace them...which results in the crappy writing/grammar/spelling found in this feature.



Thanks to MAGGIE for the Lost-related typos and errors. It's too bad I can hardly pay attention to said errors/typos because I am STILL FREAKING OUT ABOUT LAST NIGHT'S EPISODE OF LOST.

No real recap this week, because I have more questions than I have answers. For instance:

* What. The. Fuck? In general. WTF?!?

* What's gonna happen when Little Ben meets up with Big Ben?

* Why did Sun not "disappear" with the rest of the Oceanic 6? (And didn't Ben kind of look surprised that she hadn't disappeared?)

* Sawyer's all responsible, thinking ahead, saving lives...awesome. :) What will become of him and Juliet now that Kate's back on the island?

* How pissed is Jack that he's gotta work in the shed? LOL.

* Sawyer alluded to Faraday having been with them but that he wasn't there "...anymore." Where is our favorite mad scientist, then?

* What the hell is up with the Dharma house/Christian cabin? It looks a lot like Jacob's cabin, but I think it's a different cabin. And how did Christian get that photograph so quickly? And why does Sun have "a long journey" to get to Jin?

* The Oceanic 6 who were on the plane and now Sawyer all think Locke is dead. But we know Locke's probably wandering around that island. Where do you think he is, and what is he doing?

* And what's Ben in such a hurry to get back to? Do you think he knows it's 1977 now? (By the way, how awesome was it when Sun clocked him with an oar?)

Thoughts, theories, more questions, answers...let's talk Lost! Sound off in the Comments section.

27 comments:

Anonymous said...

I am also curious what happened to Daniel. It seemed he was pretty close to going off his rocker last time we saw him BUT we know that at some point he was with the DI in the Orchard Station and we also know that he spoke to young Charlotte so I suspect we'll be seeing him in flashbacks.

That whole scene with Sun and Frank with Christian freaked me out. I was holding my breath waiting for smokey to come in there and attack them. I can answer your question about how he got that picture, though. Frank and Sun, along with the rest of the passengers that didn't get snatched out of the plane aren't in 1977, they are in 2007. That's why Christian said they have a long journey ahead of them. Hurley, Kate, Sayid and Jack seem to be the only ones that are in 1977 at this point.

Speculation has it that the reason Ben didn't get flashed out of the plane into 1977 is because he already exists there as a child so he couldn't exist there in another form, which leads one to wonder, is that why Sun did not get flashed out into 1977 as well? Was she born there? We have had no evidence so far of this but now I'm wondering. Could Sun be the baby that we saw with Pierre Chang earlier this season? I thought Miles at first and I'm not totally convinced I'm wrong about that but I am certainly now considering that it is Sun. Which would blow my mind all to bits.

I am desperately seeking a screencap of the cabin scene. I could swear I saw someone standing behind Sun for a moment but I was watching TV and reading a thread at the same time so I didn't quite catch it. I was told it's on Lostpedia but I find that site incredibly difficult to navigate so I haven't found it yet. If anyone here happens to have that link I would be most grateful.

I am quite happy with last night's episode and as always, Wednesday can't get here soon enough.

-April

Laura Payne said...

The only question I can answer is -Jin sure was hot last night.

Kara Pelicano said...

Why has no one responded with LOST gossip? So, I began watching Lost for the first time a mere 3 weeks ago and caught up on all episodes in order to watch last night's new one.

Agreed, WTF?! My first question is why did the flashes stop for Juliet, Miles, and Sawyer? What happened to Farraday and Charlotte (besides the fact that she died)?

I have a million more questions and comments, but I'm OK just finishing up with a "Sawyer looked damn sexy in a DI jumpsuit and those glasses."

lowlife said...

Ben and Sun (and the rest on the plane crash) are not in 1977. They're in 2007. At least that's what I've gathered so far. That's why the whole cabin has been abandoned when they met up with Christian on the main island where he shows them old pictures. And that's why the docks are so beat up and old (they wouldn't have been like that when the new recruits showed up). That's why Christian told Sun she has a long journey, a journey through time.

But that just begs the question: Why is Sun not important enough to flash back to 1977? I have two possible solutions. One: She didn't have enough mystical mojo to recreate the original Oceanic crash (aka Jin beside her). Or two: Ben can't flash back because he would have met up with his younger self, so is it possible that Sun might have been on the island before (I highly doubt this scenario, but it is Lost)?

And this is the geek in me, but I really don't care what happens to Juliet and Sawyer, because I know that Sawyer and Kate are destined to be together as I believe that Jack and Juliet are destined also.

Now I'm excited to see what happens with Sayid and the rest of the new "recruits." Is this going to be the start of the downfall of Dharma? When did they start pushing the button and why (something it seems the show hasn't mentioned in a very long time)?

THE GRAMMARPHILE said...

@ April and Lowlife: Man, I am SO confused with this time travel mumbo-jumbo. You guys each have good (although somewhat opposite) viewpoints on who is in what time period. So far the way I've been looking at it (which probably ISN'T right, but who the hell knows?) is that the Island is in 1977, and the rest of the world is in 2007. I'm looking at it as the *locations* are in two separate periods of time, and that the time period the *people* are in is based on which location they're in. I feel like Frank and Sun and Kate and Jack and Hurley and Sayid WERE all in 2007 when they were in the air on that plane, and now that they're on the Island, they're in 1977, because that's the year it is THERE. So now you've got these 2007 people who should be living in 2007, but instead they're stuck in a place where it's 1977. At least that's my take on it...however wrong or right that is, haha.

THE GRAMMARPHILE said...

@ April: Oh, I'm sure Faraday will be back. He had BETTER come back to try to help sort out this time travel craziness!

I'm glad Smokey didn't get 'em at the cabin. I really like Lapidus; I think he's a good guy.

Regarding Sun--all this time, we thought Mr. Paik was her dad. If that is not the case, then how did he get her? Does he know someone in the DI? Hmmm...

I will try to search Lostpedia later on for that picture; if I can find it, I'll post a direct link here. :)

THE GRAMMARPHILE said...

@ Laura: Yeah, he kinda was, wasn't he? :) (But I'm still partial to Sawyer, of course, especially when he *reads*...)

THE GRAMMARPHILE said...

@ Kara: Don't worry, they were commenting, but I was in meetings all morning and couldn't moderate the comments until now. ;)

I think the flashes stopped for those guys when Locke turned the big ol' donkey wheel. It stopped the Island from bouncing around through different time periods.

Holy crap, that's a LOT of Lost in such a small amount of time! I applaud you...THAT'S dedication! :D

And I completely agree with you on Sawyer. *swoon*

Anonymous said...

Obviously, in my comment earlier, when I said Orchard Station, I meant Orchid Station.

Early morning brain without coffee is disastrous for me.

This whole time travel thing has me spun too. Unless the writers are messing with our heads, they did tell us that Sawyer's group was thirty years earlier and then he stated that it was 1977 so that would leave us to conclude that Ben, Sun and the rest of this group is in 2007.

I found the screencap I was looking for and there is something there but it wasn't nearly as exciting as I thought it would be. I am so hoping for Claire soon. I liked her so much and the way she disappeared is so mysterious. I want Claire back! I was kinda hoping it would be quite clear that it was Claire in the cabin, but it wasn't very clear at all.

-April

THE GRAMMARPHILE said...

@ Lowlife: I, too, am really curious about why Sun didn't flash back. I briefly wondered if she was dead, and that's why she couldn't flash back, but I don't think that's it...

Yeah, I'm wondering if all this craziness is what started the Dharma downfall. I'm really interested to see what happens with the new recruits, too. And doesn't that Phil dude seem to be all sorts of suspicious?

I agree wholeheartedly that Kate and Sawyer are destined to be together. I'll be interested to see what the Kate/Juliet dynamic is like in the next few episodes...

THE GRAMMARPHILE said...

@ April: I heard that we will not see Claire at all for season 5 but that we will see her again in season 6...

Crane said...

So I just started watching Lost maybe 3 days ago - do I really have to watch the whole series, or is the Wiki page sufficient for me to have any idea what the hell's going on?

THE GRAMMARPHILE said...

As time-consuming as it is, I would absolutely suggest that you go back and watch all of the old episodes of Lost, preferably in order.

I started off watching Season 2 (most of it) simultaneously with the END of season 3, then went back and watched season 1, THEN watched season 4. Because of the screwy order, I missed a lot of stuff that was important to know and that really enhanced the experience of watching Lost. I've been going back and watching everything in order from the beginning now (I'm in the middle of Season 4, which I have already seen, but watching it again to keep the order of everything straight is a good idea). That's REALLY helped me understand what's going on. Trust me, by the time you get to season 5, with time traveling and dead people not being dead and Christian and Richard popping up everywhere and people from 2007 hanging out in 1977, you will be more than grateful you watched the whole damn thing in order. :) The more "stuff you catch" in Lost, the better the show is, and if you don'tsee it in order, certain people/things won't hold the same significance for you...if that makes any sense.

Kara Pelicano said...

@Crane

I HIGHLY suggest you watch the entire series. It's free at hulu.com or abc.com.
I just watched the entire series in the past 3 weeks (granted, I had little life outside of work doing this, but it was worth it).
It's a fantastic show with a complex storyline that is both fun and compelling to follow.

Makes me mad when people scoff at the show when they've seen 1 episode and say "ppfff to time travel and smoke monsters... and TV that makes me think instead of stare like a zombie."

More power to you if you watch the whole series!

Laura Payne said...

He certainly is hot in those reading glasses.

Ranielle said...

@Laura: I completely agree. I'm a Sawyer girl all the way, but Jin's new 'do brings out the "mrowr" in me.

Re: Faraday - When Sawyer said that Faraday wasn't "there" anymore, I took that to mean that crazy Faraday had gotten a hell of a lot crazier since last we saw him lay eyes on little Charlotte circa 1977. My guess is that he's holed up somewhere babbling about spinning records and constants while Sawyer continues to think about what to do with the poor guy.

Re: Baby Ethan - Hello crazy wacky time loop! Without Juliet, creepy Ethan probably never would have been born to join the Others, infiltrate the castaway camp, and wreak general havoc until his death.

Re: Speaking of creepy kids - Little Ben was always a little creepy, but did he seem especially creepy (not to mention eerily calm and knowing) when he brought that sandwich to Sayid?

Finally, I can't say enough about Sawyer as leader of the pack. Three years hiding in plain sight with the DI as their head of security, and he's not going to stand for Jack's holier-than-thou antics. He may have come off as a little bitter in that late-night scene, but he's entitled. He didn't yell, he didn't point a gun at anyone, he just pointed Jack to the door and then went back to his beer and books. Good for him!

THE GRAMMARPHILE said...

@ Ranielle: Yeah, I can definitely see Faraday getting crazier, haha. ...Remember one of the first episodes of this season, though, where there was a flashback and there was Faraday in a Dharma suit and he was hanging out by where (I think) the big frozen donkey wheel is...? Does THAT tie into where he is right now?

Regarding baby Ethan, I was totally not expecting that! I love it, though. And does anyone else think little Ben looks like what Clay Aiken must have looked like as a kid? LOL.

I, too, loved Sawyer last night. He wised up, he got mature, and he still looks dead sexy. :)

michael said...

I don't think this is the end of DI. Not yet. With Ben still a kid, Ethan just born, and the truce
in good standing, they'll have to fast-forward or time warp again.

Faraday is probably building the Orchid, hoping to unravel all the time travel mysteries. Or, at least, he was, then something happened to him at the Orchid at that's why he isn't "there."

A friend of mine once told me that he sees Christian as the Angel of Death, one of the ambassadors of the Island. He might even be "Jacob" as he appears to people.

The guy at the Flame was building the model for the Swan, i.e. the button station. Pushing the button is what releases energy build up from the donkey wheel at the Orchid - that's why not pushing it a while back started the white flash before Desmond turned the key.

I just hope we get some decent answers before this is all over. J.J. Abrams has a nice track record for WTF endings. Cloverfield, ALIAS, and anything to do with FRINGE. Incidentally, what's with the man and capital letters?

THE GRAMMARPHILE said...

@ Michael: Ooh, that would make sense, if Faraday is off building the Orchid.

I like the Christian = Angel of Death theory. I think that's really interesting. If that's the case, though, then I wonder why some people who are (presumably) not dead or about to die (like Sun and Lapidus) see him...

Yeah, I'm jonesing for some answers right about now, too. Last night's episode left me with many more questions than answers...

HorribleLicensePlates said...

Okay I am a little behind on this comment, I know, but I just have to say that my WTF moment was when that woman said the baby's name was ETHAN! Holy shit! And then Juliette got all freaked out and was all like I MUST GET THIS CREEPY BABY OUT OF MY HANDS NOW.

THE GRAMMARPHILE said...

Yeah, that was a crazy moment--I didn't expect that at all! And that's exactly why I love LOST so much--for moments just like that. :)

Anonymous said...

It's 2009.

THE GRAMMARPHILE said...

Really? I'm not certain. Not to make this any more confusing, but I thought the plane crash was in '04, then the Oceanic 6 spent 3 years off-Island, which would make it 2007 in the "real world" in the show (despite it being 1977 in Dharmaville on the Island AND it being 2009 in present-time for all of us who are watching the show)...

michael said...

The LOST time setting is a little behind ours. Remember when the Others had Jack captive and they showed him the Red Sox winning the World Series? They covered only a few months in the show while we went ahead three years. Not that the year really matters when you're stuck on a space-time independent island.

THE GRAMMARPHILE said...

Thanks for that info, Michael--very helpful. I forgot (until you just reminded me) of how they used the Sox/the Series to help establish a time frame.

michael said...

YOU forgot about a BASEBALL reference? Granted it's Boston and not Philly, but still.

Besides that, I couldn't get a handle on the time frame until they did the "tailies" bit, and they did a day count. Aw, now I miss Mr. Eko. And Charlie. Oh here it goes again.

THE GRAMMARPHILE said...

Well, I dislike the Sox only slightly less than I dislike the Mets. So perhaps I was just trying to make myself forget that baseball reference. (Clearly it is not 2009 on the show, or else we would have heard someone mention the phrase "World Effin' Champions," haha!) :)

I miss Mr. Eko. I thought he was a really cool character. I miss him more than I miss Charlie, I think. (It took me longer to warm up to Charlie; I really only liked him from the middle to the end of season 3.)